Thursday, June 17, 2010

Riley's right front -- in the spotlight again

This morning I dream  my phone is ringing, and I wake up. Was it a real ring? I check my phone. There's a voice message dated 5:55am, but when I play it back it's from the previous night, from my mom (go figure). Did my phone really ring? I still don't know. Who would call this early? 

I text the barn manager who should be bringing horses in now.  "Did u try to call?"  I take a shower, and when I get out, her text reply has arrived. "No,  just starting to bring the horses in." Whew.

Then 15 minutes later another message. "Riley lost his RF shoe and a lot of hoof."

She wasn't kidding....

Riley is on week six of his shoes, but that freakin' toe is so long! There's a giant chunk out of his Professional Choice bell boot.My farrier is coming this afternoon -- and I sent him this video -- he thinks he can put a shoe on but he has glue-ons if needed. Are glue-ons the answer?
Glue-on ProsGlue-on Cons
  • Hooves are not damaged by nails
  • Glue-ons stay on better than steel/aluminum shoes
  • Horse can wear glue-ons when hoof wall is damaged
  • Applied correctly glue-ons do not cause heel contraction
  • They are increasingly used for sport, not just rehab
  • Cost
  • Appearance (though this has improved)
  • Some farriers won't or don't know how to apply them
  • Better known for rehab than performance
  • Requires sanding of hoof wall
  • Some glues take awhile to set
  • Take longer to prep/apply than regular shoes
Those of you with glue-on experience far beyond the little I've dabbled in it -- what else???


  1. My only glue-on experience was okay, except the darn things fell right off before the farrier left. Re-applied, they stayed on through work and hard play in turn out, looked a bit ugly, did their job. But when the time came to remove them? Yeah, they were hard to remove. I like the idea, but for me the execution needed some tweaking. It was my farrier's second experience with them so that probably had a lot to do with it.

    Dang, Riley! Did you know your mom is psychic?

  2. How about hoof boots between now and the next shoeing? With his history, I don't know if that's a decent option or not, but it's working right now for a horse at my barn who just shredded his hoof when he pulled a shoe. (He has Ole Macs/Old Macs, whatever the actual name of them is.) Or do you need a longer-term answer, and that's why you're considering glue ons? I've heard good things about their effectiveness for horses who can't keep shoes on, but am no expert, and look forward to reading responses to learn from them.

  3. Just make sure your farrier is experienced with glue ons and also Make sure they use real sigafoos glue ons with the fiber glass sleeve. My mare wore glue ons from sept 09 until may 2010. During that time I used two different carriers.
    I had a farrier glue on regular steel bar shoes and they were never right. He swore to me up and down that he knew what he was doing. My mare pulled one off while on stall rest and took half of her foot with it. She was being treated for a fractured coffin bone and the glue ons were prescribed by the vet.
    The second farrier was a true expert with glue ons and my mare had one set of sigafoos shoes for 7 weeks... A record for her. The only drawbacks to the glue ons are 1 - the expense and 2 - the fact that you should keep exposure to water as minimal as possible (ie, no baths). I live close to you and would be happy to tell you which farrier didn't work out so well. Just send me an email. Good luck.

  4. The only thing I know about glue ons are for human finger nails. Sorry.

    That looks like it hurts. Poor Riley, I hope he feels better soon.

  5. Phooey!!I always have to keep an eye on my Boy to make sure his shoes stay on. I hate it when that happens.

    Never had glue ons and have heard varied reviews. But I should think a good farrier would know how to do them properly. I'd trust my farrier if he recommended them, and I'm sure your shoer is good too, so no worry. He'll know what's best for Riley.

  6. I've no experience with glue-on shoes, but last year when Pippin lost a shoe and took a chunk of the side wall, leaving very little to nail to, the farrier replaced the shoe and used 2-part epoxy to fill the gaps. It worked wonderfully, staying in place and helping to hold the shoe until it was time for a trim.

  7. did his shoes have clips? becouse they tend to take half the hoof with them if they are pulled off.

  8. The hoof looks very well grown so you might just be able to get a shoe on. Good luck!

  9. what about hoof boots? They would allow for the damaged parts of the hoof to grow out easily and they are less expensive in the long run. I use them on my barefoot boy.

  10. I use glue on's quite a bit here with the ottb's and have had a lot of success. Currently have a horse in them right now. The sigafoos glue on's are the only way to go especially with horses who run around a lot in the field. I have never had any luck with steel shoes glued on and we have tried. We don't sand down the foot but the foot is rasped, cleaned and dry. Then the shoe is applied and wrapped with plastic and vetwrap for 15 min or so before he unwraps and finishes them up. I keep the horse in the stall overnight to let them set up.

    I have never had any issues with these coming off. They last 7+ weeks which is exactly what I need when trying to grow foot on these silly Tb's. I have a farrier who is really knowledgeable in applying them which helps. You have to be comfortable and know what works or you are throwing money away. You can also haul into New Bolton and have them done. A set of sigafoos glue on's up front and steel behind costs me $310.

  11. I have read good things about Epona shoes, for rehab and performance.

    This comment is totally unrelated to this post, but very related to an event from several months ago. Courtney King-Dye is no longer in a coma! It looks like she came out of the coma at the end of March. She is recovering and writing updates on her website.

  12. he really lost chunk - ouch ouch...I'd try hoof boots - old macs - they're really good for hoofs that need to recover and provide an excellent protection, your farrier will likely not recommend them because they would take business away from him, but it is definitely something to look into...what I would be worried with glue on shoes(surprise surprise - I'm the one with all natural grooming product line :o)) is the toxicity of the glue they use, hoof is a living breathing thing that will absorb toxins and when you read up on the cautions and recommendations how and where to apply the glue - wear a mask, apply only in a well ventilated area, wear rubber gloves - one might wonder about the long term damage they may cause...

  13. I feel your pain. Every time KAswyn pulls a show off the result is ugly. Once my farrier even said to me "Do you ahve land mines in your pasture? Cause it looks like your horse stepped on one. Nice, huh?

    Anyway, I hope you get it all fixed and he's ridable again soon.

  14. Look into this

    I represent this in Asia, you can get it directly in the US. It is very good and all natural. It might take a bit longer but it helps your horse to build good hoof for the long haul.


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